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Opportunity Console

I know that George B. suggested that feedback on the "opportunity console" be posted over at TMC and I'm sure that will happen. But there doesn't seem to be any reason that we can't also post pictures and comments (feedback) right here.

- Has anyone seen the opportunity console yet?
- Is it even being displayed during the test drives today?
- Does anyone have pics?
- What's your opinion of the modular console system, if you've seen it in person?

Those of us who'd like a solution for the central interior space are anxious for info. Thx.

+ 1!

I will be happy as long as it has various secure compartments, and maybe a cup-holder that sits further in front, so I can still use the arm-rest.

My test-drive isn't until next Sat, so I am excited to start hearing reviews and seeing photos/vids of today's test drives! Bring um on!

+2 ..

I'd like to think it was my whining and personal notes to GB that got recognized .... but enough of my narcissism.

I'm dying see anything that allows you to get any valuable out of view. That whole "open" area is an engineer's dream and an owner's nightmare.

The car I drove today had the "cubbie hole" under the screen, and I think it makes all the difference. There is some no-slip material at the bottom, and is the perfect place to hold your sun glasses and cell phone. My verdict: I think Tesla must have this in all cars. Would be good if it had a door.

In addition, the center floor was lined in the decor material (obeche wood for me), with no-slip material lines running front-to-rear. Would easily keep a purse or small bag from flopping about. My verdict: Meh.

I would liked to have seen other floor console options. Something that comes up to the existing center floor "walls" with partitions would be nice.

@Slindell - I, too, welcome the cubbie as I feel something was needed.

...But if I were to have my wish granted, the 17" touchscreen would 'float' the way the screen does on the Model X, like this and this, but would slide up to reveal storage, like in the new Impala, like this and this.

I never thought I'd recommend a Chevy's styling, but credit where it's due: that would allow for clean lines and convenient, secure storage that the two sides fought for during the Great Console Wars.

FWIW, I really like the built in look of the Model S screen rather than the "I'm begging to be stolen or pulled at by the kids" look of the Model X. In my opinion, the Model X screen is a disaster just waiting to happen. What I would like to see is a lockable metal cover for the Model S screen so that it's hidden and secured when you're not in the car.

There are some pictures of an early Model S without any panels and there isn't any room for storage behind the screen, even if it was to slide up.

Anything in the car should be hidden and there should be at least some storage area for gloves, kleenex, etc. where they can be easily reached by the driver. I'm not thrilled that we'll have to buy all these pieces as options when they should be part of the car's standard equipment.

"I'm not thrilled that we'll have to buy all these pieces as options when they should be part of the car's standard equipment."

Big +1

On the positive side at least Tesla may be making them options at this point. Hopefully some of these expected storage areas will become standard by the time they run out of early adopters and need to sell to the average car buyer who may be more demanding.

If cup holders in the back or a compartment in the front (for wallet, glasses, etc.) is a charged for option that would be very disappointing. As a huge advocate I'm ecstatic that TM makes innovative engineering choices and hits or surpasses their goals. This is such a wonderful car (look at all these glowing reviews) that having that excitement tarnished because of silly, obvious accommodations is disappointing. I hope and strongly recommend that they are standard, if not now, ultimately.

I really liked the simple design of the opportunity console in my test drive today. Perfect solution to with a dock for your iPhone or iPod as well as a USB plug, non slip material for sunglasses with a cubbie below the screen. Still allows for the space to put a bag or purse for the ladies. I would recommend this be standard as well. My understanding is this may be more customizable though

Those wanting standard consoles are necessarily prepared to "force" them on those who don't. Reasonably priced (multiple) console add-ons satisfies everyone. IMO.

Can someone please post pictures of the 'opportunity console'? It's a bit hard to comment on it without having seen it, and it's a bit hard to see it when you live 15,000km away.

@Brian H: As a long-time proponent of a center console, I've already expressed the many reasons why I feel that one would be a good addition to the Model S. I'm not completely sure what you mean by "Those wanting standard consoles are necessarily prepared to "force" them on those who don't," but if I'm interpreting your comment correctly, it makes no sense. Using your implied logic, I suppose one could state "those who do not want a standard console are necessarily prepared to 'force' open space on those who do." But that would be equally nonsensical."

The pros and cons have expressed their opinions, and TM (in its wisdom) has decided to provide an OPTIONAL solution. So far, the opportunity console options I've seen miss the mark, but I'm hoping that a more comprehensive solution is forthcoming.

If you love the open space, opt not to exercise the option. No one is "forcing" anything on anyone.

A significant number of buyers want a real center console with hidden storage space implemented in an aesthetic and integrated manner. Those that do should have the option to have one available.

Brian H,

Reasonably priced would be okay with me. However, reasonably priced does not mean $250 for a $25 parcel shelf. At that rate the back seat console would be $950.

Mark E,

Pictures are here:

Note that this appears to be just what they have developed so far, there may be more coming that weren't available this weekend.

Slindell. How did you like the obeche wood, what does it look like (light, dark, shiny, matte finish) and how does it compare to the old banana leaf?

Apparently there are two finish options for the obeche wood. Matte or Glossy. I'd be interested in any feedback from those that have seen them. I just had to put my order in and went with the glossy but am still not sure which looks better. Thx

With all the talk about storage space, has anyone thought to open the glove box to see how big it is? Come on guys, there are only 2 physical switches on the dash and no one bothered to push either?

Did anyone happen to notice if the Model S has a standard glovebox, and if so, how big is it?

I have looked at the glove box in one of the late betas. I found it to be reasonable in this age of air bags. Wallet, phones, paperback, yes.

I looked at the glove box yesterday with the test drives. I opened the one on a late beta, and it's a reasonable size and fairly deep. The rear is a bit oddly shaped with two deeper portions on the left and right. Ignoring the deeper part, I'd guess it's about 7" deep and maybe 3" tall.

I was surprised that it releases with an electronic latch (the physical release button is to the right of the display). I'm guessing they will have a valet mode where you can lock out the glove box, perhaps with an on-screen unlock code (I didn't get a clear answer on this yesterday when I asked).

jerry3: Cheers - although the rear console appears to be there, the front one appears to just be an open sunglasses holder stuck in the empty console.

I'm hoping that they will come out with a proper console to hold and cover things put in it.

I've had a window smashed by a thief who wanted my wifes' jacket that she'd forgotten on the back seat. Now everything gets hidden - and windows are tinted.

Mark E- suggest you comment on the opportunity console thread at Tesla motors club. That is where George stated he would be looking. I have had my two bobs worth there!

Where in TMC? I did quick visit there but didn't see any pictures or designs that were worth commenting. Maybe I was looking at the wrong thread? This is where I was looking for something worth commenting:

All that could be said about what people want for that console has been already said here several times so seeing actual designs would help commenting.

Timo, there are multiple photos on various threads over there.

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@Brian H: As a long-time proponent of a center console, I've already expressed the many reasons why I feel that one would be a good addition to the Model S. I'm not completely sure what you mean by "Those wanting standard consoles are necessarily prepared to "force" them on those who don't,""

The reason I used the word "standard" was to make it obvious I mean built-in, part of the car, not optional.

Obviously not obviously enough.

@dborn, I found three options (good pictures in poll thread). One without console, the shelf one, one without console, the phone slot one and one without console, the cupholder one. Only one that is proper console is that rear-seat add-on.

Maybe they are not allowed to make proper console without re-crash testing the vehicle.

After reviewing photos of the existing opportunity console options at TMC, I've left my critique, recommendations, and a rudimentary sketch (post # 126) over at TMC. See:

Bottom line: What Tesla has proposed is minimalist and will be fine for those who want a minimalist feel in the cockpit. For those of us who want more, the opportunity console proposed so far just doesn't do the job.

petero: I took the sample obeche wood outside the "waiting tent" and placed it against the white and tan leather seats. The wood grain actually has light (white) and darker (tan) grain, so it goes very well with either interior color options.

The car I drove had matte obeche, and a Tesla assistant showed me pictures of the gloss obeche. I'm going to go with the gloss. I think it compares very well with the old banana leaf.

Why do "opportunity" consoles remind me of "wish" sandwiches?

Maybe I've missed it, but does anyone have any timeframe for availability or general price? (As a signature holder, I get the feeling I won't have the opportunity for a console.....)

Ironically, the most negative professional review I have read so far to date is directly related to the lack of secure storage, and how dangerous open-storage is for such a powerful vehical...

As I stated in so many other post over the last few months, I was fearful this would be a sticking point for some, and it's too bad Tesla didn't think to nip this issue in the butt a long time ago (being it is such a simple issue to solve). With that said, I am glad Tesla decided to create the console prototypes for the first test drives, however, I still think it is in their best intrest to develop a high-quality design as soon as possible, and start placing them in all the test cars sooner than later.

Otherwise, as I expected, this car is getting stellar reviews on just about every other aspect, which is fantastic news for us all!!!

Regardless of TM's failure to nip the problem in the BUD, I'm glad that they're doing something about it now. I think that most of the low number holders are likely to buy the car now and simply add the options on later and in a few months we should be able to customize out Model S with the opportunity console of our choosing at time of order. The end result will much better than other car companies (I hope).