I got off a call from the rep few weeks back with an unsure answer. What is the approx pricing of the Signature S? He said it is going to be 'comparable' to a BMW 5-series. Well, that could be anywhere between 60k-85k....
Anybody has any insight?
We have been told:
160 mile pack $57,400
230 mile pack add about $10,000
300 mile pack add another $10,000
Signature will come/is available with 300 mile pack. The implication was that a Signature would only have 300 mile pack but this has not been spelled out. It won't be final for about a year.
The Signature will come "well equipped." There may be other standard equipment extra charges.
There is a $7,500 tax credit currently available.
I hope this helps.
I was told by a Tesla rep that it will be around 80K. Based on that conversation and what we've been told (see @William13), I'm guessing it will be a 300 mile pack with 10k of options that are standard in the signature and optional in the general production (i.e., the premium infotainment center, rims, leather seats, etc.)
A Tesla representative told me that the Signature edition made for Europe is expected to have a final price tag between 80k and 85k Euros.
I was told as high as $80,000 a year ago. That is pre-rebate.
I was told likely between $80-90k. "We're going to keep it under a hundred" was another statement. Supposedly will have the "best audio system of any car out there.". That is all I know (or rather been told.). This is all pure speculation I think on the part of the person I spoke to on phone. I don't think they've finalized anything, so this is anyones guess Was also told the options havent been published because they aren't finalized, and they are still waiting for patents on some of the parts.
They floated the idea of 95k in Toronto a month or so ago. I hope not that high as I am not sure I will stay with the Signature for that much of a premium sight unseen.
I hope it's a range based on certain options rather than a single set package. 95k is definitely beyond what I'm willing to spend, particularly since that number almost always assumes the rebate. 80k was the original floated number and that's really my limit. 50k base + 20k battery + 10k fluff.
In Toronto, 95k before taxes and rebate? Oh, my God, that is way beyond my expectation. It is an insanely high price tag. I thought it was 80K something.
49,990 after tax credits. Although, only with 160 mile range.
Demon, we are talking about Model S Signature.
I assume that the final price will be about 87K before tax rebate. This would allow them to say less than 80k price. Of course sales taxes in most states will bring the price right back to 87k.
How much for a SPORT edition. I can see a 0-60 in four second model. When will that come!
When they design and build it Alek.
THERE IS NO SPORT VERSION YET. -.-
There IS a Sport version in development. Unless Elon Musk affords to lie in during Earnings Report conferences (I think the one before the last one). He said the sports version is advancing quite nicely or something like that. My speculation is two-fold :
• they do not want to kill the sales of the remaining Roadsters (or create buyer's remorse) so they will not announce the sport version anytime soon (and Elon will keep his mouth shut for a while, despite his understandable excitement)
• the sport version will coincide with the AWD version; there is no reasonable way they will do AWD with bulky dinosaur transmissions, they will just put another PEM + Motor + GearBox tube (check the pictures of the current one) in between the front wheels; BOOM - double power, double torque, double traction, all of that instantly ! The only remaining question is how much juice can be squeezed from the battery. Maybe they will wait for a new cell from Panasonic, who knows. This should break the 4s easily, maybe even go as low as 3.5s. Do not expect details on this for about a year. The main thing to do is to get the normal S out the door in time and with announced pricing. The rest will be history !
DC Tesla store is advising $95,000 for the signature series model s. Way more than I thought, but I was never seriously considering that model anyway. A few collectors and a few too rich to wait, that seems to be the market.
I hope Tesla takes into consideration that Signature Series reservation holders have already given Tesla an interest free loan of 40k (some for years). I know some reservation holders are the ultra wealthy to which a cost change is negligible, but others are stretching to afford an 80k vehicle.
My understanding, however foolish, is that the extra deposit for Signature holders would benefit us by (1) getting us the car sooner and (2) having some nice stuff tossed in, "gratis". I'm not expecting the Signature to be more expensive than a standard 300 mile version. The car will be nicer because they get to use my money, not because I'll pay more later, too.
Of course, I may be in for a rude surprise. I'll deal with that when it comes, if it comes.
I hope the 95k is not the signature price. I wasn't going to tell my wife about the full price of the 300 mile version, but this will make me wait for my regular sequence reservation. Why spend this much and get a car that may not have the bugs worked out and only four "color" choices red, white, black, and silver.
I guess I will just need to hold my horses and wait the extra six months to save 20k.
95k would be a no sale for me. I'd have to drop my Sig reservation and figure out if a non-sig makes sense or not. If fairly basic luxury options, like heated seats and GPS, push it beyond 80k after rebate then I'll sadly have to pass on the Model S completely.
77k+ for 300 mile regular production -7500 rebate.
It would take 20k of options to get to 95k. I paid less for a new car recently. I still expect the signature to be 85k or else a fairly large exodus will ensue.
why is the price of model s in "euro" 100% more expensive than the price in "$"? (77000$ for model S 300miles= 55000€, why is there a price of about 85000 €(=>119000 $)????) Shipment, taxes,... of a car from US to Europe can´t be a true reason, why european customers have to pay extremly much more than US customers for this car!!!
That is not fair!
Is there anyone in this forum, who is able to give a true answer, which is not based on assumptions or "i have heard from one, i dont know exactly his name"
thanks in advance for the answers
@reinhard, I have no idea where you got the information that the Model S would be 85k Euro. There is no official pricing in Euro yet (the website says "TBD", to be determined). Here is what I know:
- 85k USD (not EUR) is the rumored price for the Model S "Signature Edition" (300 mile battery pack and all options included, w/ some options that are not available for the regular Model S, and Signature reservation holders receive their cars first before all others).
- Prices in USD do not include tax, so for Germany your calculation should read: 77k USD = 55k EUR * 1.19 = 65k EUR.
Once again, I cannot "give a true answer" b/c no pricing information in EUR has been published yet, but like many others I spoke to a Tesla representative (in Munich, Germany, in my case) and he said that the prices in EUR should not be very far off from the prices in USD converted to EUR, i.e., the above calculation does qualify as a rule of thumb.
If there is any news wrt to prices in Germany, it should be posted here: http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/incentives-verg%C3%BCnstigungen-...
In the USA the price will be x + 5-10% sales taxes + luxury tax + excise tax (0 to $5000 depending on your state) + title cost + delivery($750 for Roadster).
I am in agreement with EdG ... I have not upgraded to the Sig series yet, but my understanding was its the 300 mile version, with the availability of extra options the other 300's would not have .. special paint/interior choices ect, just like what bmw and audi have.
so why they would say ok give me 40k, then go ok now that you're a Sig S holder, when you upgrade your options its going to cost and additional X,000 for the specialty Signature options
I do know if they break the $90k mark they would not be in the same competition with their goal of the 5-series or E class. BMW 550i AWD fully loaded, even with useless options I got up to $86,500. So if Tesla goes above the rumored $85 I would see them pricing themselves out of their own goals.
Hi Volker, kann es sein das der Link nicht funktioniert?
reinhard, es kann sein, dass er bei Dir nicht funktioniert, aber ich habe keine Idee, warum nicht. Bei mir geht's, ich hab's gerade nochmal ausprobiert. Du kannst auch "händisch" hinnavigieren: Vom "Forums Home" aus findest Du den Blog Post unter "Clubs" > "Europe".
I have been assuming it is the same price as the 300 mile version.
Any higher and I will have to downgrade and probably take the base model with 160 miles. $20k for the extra battery pack it not worth it at the rate the battery technology is changing.
Taking the risk of depositing $40k & purchasing one of the first off the line should be rewarded with something.
We are all TRUSTING Tesla will do the right thing here. Lets hope they will not disappoint.
>Taking the risk of depositing $40k ... should be rewarded with something.
That was my take too. Even at a trivial bank interest rate, it's costing me something to have put down the Sig deposit. I expect more for that money than just the option for some unique paint color.
I was told Signatures would be loaded with all options, perhaps different leather, and special signage. The first cars made will be Signatures. They recently said 300 mile battery.
I am also trying to decide how much extra I am willing to spend for being first.
@murraypetera What return on investment are you thinking of? Let's assume the Sig's will have $15k worth of options, do you expect Tesla to give you that for an interest free loan of $40k?