Nice blog. Should boost stock price on Monday as the shorts scramble for the exits:-)
I think he felt like it lifted the car up because it probably did. This looks like a P85+ which most likely has active air suspension which would give when the car is pushed hard from below.
I had a weird feeling reading it. Almost like it took two days for the statement to come out and he hit on all the key hot buttons. Like there was a script writer sitting next to him and saying "you might want to say THIS".
All in all I'd say my take was very positive and I'm happy to watch my wife and son drive away in the car.
Sounds similar to the pole vault or spearing action in the Seattle incident.
Perfect, that's what we needed. This is good, really good. I can see TSLA going up again on Monday.
It played out just the way I imagined it.
Great job, Tesla! I still feel safest in the Model S.
Most important thing is the guy felt safe (and relief) and would buy again in a heartbeat. Would love to see an interview of him describing what happened. Put all the conspiracy zealots to rest and see he's not motivated for profit or otherwise shady intentions...
@Benz - Tuesday, stock market closed Monday for Veterans Day.
I wish we had the option to keep the car from lowering, just to give the car more chance of clearing road debris.
What he said is the force that's strong enough to penetrate the battery would be strong enough to punch through the cabin and possibly injure the occupants if there were no battery pack there to provide the additional protection. The Tesla design is still the best to for safety of the people. Battery is always replaceable.
Carik -- great point. I think it would also very important for the public to see the hitch. Wonder if someone picked it up. Hopefully it's not on the road still!
These occurrences make me wonder how many times road debris cause accidents that never make the news. Many years ago I was riding in a car that ran over some debris in the dark and it ripped out the steering mechanism and a brake line the car veered off the road over a curb and ended up on a church lawn. Fortunately we were only going 25mph so no injuries. As Forrest would say "stuff happens". Model S is proving just how safe it is.
The driver will undoubtedly be providing quite favorable testimony to the NHTSA. Their interest is personal safety and not vehicle damage.
i do wish i could set the car to stay at normal height instead of low at highway speed.
The Faux Knows and Shorts will fan the fire flames if they can.
Less sensational and of less initial impact but of more long term importance is that hitting this type of debris can cost a minimum of $40K referb or $50K new if the battery is dented or a lot more if it is punctured and catches on fire. I think the idea that there is a armor solution that Tesla did not consider that would prevent these punctures is incorrect. Tesla did their homework and placed their battery protection bet. They have long been keenly aware that the underbelly is a vulnerable place for a battery pack and they took the steps they deemed necessary to protect it from damage and mitigate harm to occupants should the battery be damaged.
I think it will take an accurate analysis of fires across premium brands to address the fire starters.
I think it will take action on Tesla's part to address the out of proportion costs for floor damage least they face the type of buyer resistance they addressed with the improved battery warranty.
I strongly feel they will at least send an update that makes the ride height user-selectable from normal to 2" lower, or they may do something that forces lowest setting to be higher, say 1". This is definitely the easiest and cheapest option to reduce these incidents, although we have no way of knowing the dimensions of the hitch and whether the extra inch or 2 would have made a difference. It would also get the least attention by the press, if at all, who barely understand how an air suspension works as it is.
A physical retrofit like Kevlar or front guard would definitely bring the issue back to the forefront again, and the spin would be one of admitting a flaw in design and subsequent stock price decrease. Maybe that's the only way to go though....If it could prevent another road debris fire from happening, it'd be worth it. After a little time passes and this dies down a bit, maybe it'll happen.
Glad to see this. The Tesla performed beautifully.
It might have taken the owner 2 days to post for at least a few reasons:
1. It looks like this person is a physician. Physicians are usually very busy people.
2. After the fire, he probably was scrambling to line up another car to drive.
3. He may not be aware of the activity on the Tesla blog/forum website. Someone may have suggested he make a statement to the Tesla community.
I bet a 3-pronged trailer hitch would have done major damage to other high performance cars that ride low to the ground.
He describes the hitch as a three prong tow hitch. There is no chance even with the suspension at standard height that it wouldn't have caused an issue.
The dimensions for these hitches are typically 9 x 6 x 12 inches.
The car would have to be higher than 6"s and on a perfectly flat road. Almost any car could have caught this thing. I'd say the ICE drivers were lucky the Tesla cleared it out of the roadway.
Maybe we should call Mythbusters and have them run over a few of these with a selection of BMWs, Lexus and others to see how they fair on average.
I've got this life sized picture of the Mayhem guy in the back of a truck throwing trailer hitches in front of Teslas. Oh, and he's wearing an "I Shorted" shirt :)
picture in my mind....
Cannot wait to pick up my Tesla on Tuesday!..
THANKS ELON AND TESLA MOTORS!
On a road trip my parents once ran over a section of gearbox pieces from a semi and it tore up their suspension, blew out the tire and destroyed the wheel and sent them crashing into a guard rail. I'm pretty sure that never made the news. No fire, luckily it went sideways instead of up into the engine bay, and everybody was ok. ;-)
It reassures us the MS owners that our MS is indeed the safest car in the world. From our fellow MS owner's story, it sounds like someone (even we know it is a computer) is personally watching and guarding our safety while we are driving our MS. That sense of safety is beyond that any insurance we can buy from. I am so glad driving a MS. Thank you, Tesla Motors!
It will be interesting to see if/how these fires (not including Mexican fire) affect insurance rates.
If rates increase, I might be able to see their point of view (but I still dislike insurance companies). If a 3 prong tow hitch or large piece of metal was run over by a conventional ICE, it may ruin steering, suspension or sever some hoses, or even come through the floor, but it might not total the car. When the battery packs become punctured the batteries ignite so fiercely that the entire front of the car becomes engulfed in flames. Thanks to 16 firewalled compartments, the fire doesn't spread beyond the punctured compartment, so the passenger cabin remains intact. But the car is probably still totaled as far as the insurance company is concerned. Hope rates don't increase because all other features should compensate for this rare occurrence.
Anyone been affected yet?
@lola - breaking news: trailer hitch market cornered - shorty bought them all. He has been spotted in the Bay Area dropping them on the 280...
In 44 years of driving I had one flat tire... eight years ago a blowout on 680 running over a trailer hitch. Fortunately I could control the car... otherwise if we went in the ditch and burnt to death we would have been part of the statistic but not the news.
The trouble is that the facts don't matter when it comes to stuff like this. Most people aren't going read this, they'll go with the headlines instead: "Tesla Catches Fire". End of research.
So, this is the second major accident involving a Model S in Tennessee with a driver that has the last name Shibayama?
What are the odds?
Most people don't even know about the fires believe it or not. I came back from a hike today and there was a guy there that started asking me a lot of questions about my car. He was very interested. I even mentioned the fires to him and how they happened. He had not heard about the fires. He laughed and was not concerned about them. Like me he doesn't run over large metal debris on a regular basis and he doesn't race through cities at 120 mph.
Now what did peak one of my friends interest (it was not the battery fires at all) was the story they heard that Tesla missed all of their target 3rd quarter goals by a huge amount and they even profited less than they did last year and that was why the stock price dropped. I am curious what they are going to tell their oh so well informed associate Tuesday after I set them straight today.
still think some group are intentionally putting these on the road where they notice tesla's traveling. on amazon, these things cost $33 each. place then on a lane and u have this issue again for sure!
some group has definitely found a weakness and trying to exploit it. when there are millions to make from shorting the stock, people will go to lengths to ruin companies. some one made 4-5 billion from the stock dropping with $33 trailer hitches!
Wow, that's a really troubling thought! It's not enough to worry a group of bored teenage vandals might find it fun leaving tow hitches on the road for unsuspecting cars to drive over, but some nefarious group of high net worth investors purposely trying to manipulate the stock price?! I really hope we're way off base on that.
Sudre_, I'm sorry I can't help myself, but just wanted to point out that something would "pique" your interest....A stock price might "peak" (but not Tesla's!).