Does anyone know if/when Tesla will add adaptive cruise control as an option?
If anybody knows, they're not tellin'.
Does anyone know is the parking assist package sensors can be used in an ACC as a next step in the Model S evolution?
volkerize.com is a web site that allows you to search the forums. Adaptive cruise has been discussed in the past, but the new parking sensors opens the possibility that adaptive cruise could be implemented in the future.
In your browser type volkerize.com to search the forum.
Not sure about other cars, but I have an Infiniti and the "intelligent cruise" and the parking sensors are completely different sensors. The cruise uses a LIDAR unit mounted in the bumper and it constantly "sweeps" the lane ahead of you, looking for reflective tail lights.
Honestly, although a neat feature, it has limited usefulness except for long trips. They will always program it to try to keep a "safe" distance from the car in front of you, which usually ends up being an "everyone cut me off" distance on the highway.
Adaptive cruise was tough to give up when I ordered my S. I have it on my BMW 760i and use it every time I drive the car. Makes long distance freeway trips much less tiring.
Adaptive Cruise COntrol is appearantly in a hidden service meny waiting to be activated with future software revision!!
I doubt that the screen you are referring to means that adaptive cruise can be activated via a software update. You cannot make sensors that were not installed appear via software anymore than you could select dual cargers on the list and have a second charger appear or change auapension type on the list and make your air suspension disappear.
What is likely is that that screen means that Tesla is at least considering adding adaptive cruise as an option in the future.
If there is a camera in the front of the car they could add it. Mobileye has adaptive cruse control .
I.e. if the windshield sensor was a camera vs a simple sensor.
Perhaps adaptive cruise control functionality will be part of the mysterious "right under your nose" announcement from Elon later this month?!
My 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit came with Adaptive Cruise standard. It's one of those things you don't think you want until you've had it. Now, it is a must. It can be set to keep a fairly short distance to the car ahead. I use it all the time. It greatly reduces fatigue and stress. It's the primary thing holding me back from gettting a Tesla.
Do not let it hold you back. You will find you are not using cruise control much at all. Your right foot will take care of that.
Hey, look! It's Adaptive Cruise Control Day!
My 1985 Yugo came with a gas engine. It's one of those things you don't think you want until you've had it. Now, it is a must. It's the primary thing holding me back from gettting a Tesla.
(Sorry I couldn't resist)
It might take some time to fine tune. The transitions would need to be extremely smooth or your range could be noticeably reduced.
I hope a speed limiter would be the first priority.
Those of us driving a MS know how silly that sounds.
Why is that? I use around 80Wh/mi more using cruise control.
I find I only use cruise control on wide open, flat pieces of freeway. In town it's useless and in hills, it's a good way to burn up a lot of energy and/or kill a car. How many times have I gone up the hills on I-8 to San Diego only to be passed by a minivan loaded with people and crap piled on top that sounded like it was about to explode? Like any other part of driving, it requires some common sense.
I see adaptive cruise in the same way I see Mercedes and BMW headlights which come on and crank their little servo motors to put a dancing pattern on the garage wall. It's stuff that is there at great expense in en effort to differentiate German cars from each other. Of course, when one adds a new goody, the others copy it. That's why a BMW headlight replacement is $8k and it's pointless.
Cruise control uses lots of extra power on I-5 through Washington State due to the terrain. Hills and valleys with few flat spots. I've tried it many times.
@johncrab +1 The German brands have to justify the premium they charge over their Asian counterparts. Everything they come out with will show up in a Hunydai in less than three years. They have to work extra hard to get even fancier stuff with little practical uses to justify the price deference.
I had adoptive cruise control on FX35. Tried it once or twice in 6 years. Enjoyed driving the car too much to give up control to computer. Will not miss it on MS.
If the car is fun to drive why give up the fun to the computer?
Cap_Zap, I am just saying waiting for something that has not even been announced. Did I miss an announcement by Elon or TM that its coming? Sure, it would be nice. Does not matter to me if anyone waits.
No real announcement. After 3 threads in one day about adaptive cruise and several threads about the interior in the past few days I have to wonder if there is more to these questions than what meets the eye.
Speaking of "eye". There was an announcement that Tesla would be working with "Mobile Eye" a long time ago. Mobile Eye is a private company.
Elon has talked about having a car that will have something similar to autopilot and somewhat autonomous. Not quite self-driving, but able to get on and off the freeway. It was mentioned at the stockholder meeting, IIRC.
Elon gave a rough time frame, but it sounds like it is a development time frame rather than a production release time frame. That part was unclear.
carlk: I'm sure that Hyundai appreciates the engineering know-how and research & development skills of BMW and Mercedes-Benz at least as much as Toyota does. ;-)
If they're adding a front camera, it would be nice if they could include dashcam functionality as well. In fact, why not already do that for the rear camera right now?
I was in an accident a few weeks ago, and the dashcam in the car behind me recorded the whole thing, proving that we were not to blame (and neither were they): when the cars in front of us suddenly braked hard to a full stop, we managed to stop in time and so did the car behind us, but the car behind them did not react in time and ended up pushing us all together. Without the camera, there would have been no way of proving that we had stopped in time and we probably would have been held at least partially at fault.
@CZ Elon gave a rough time frame, I don't think Elon believes in time. :-)
Visionaries compress time while looking forward, it's part of their skill set. They need help from production engineers to provide realistic delivery times. I bet Elon has just as much difficulty recalling time span in the past as well. It is meaningless to him. Too often Elon is asked questions in interviews he can answer easily but has no production estimate for. That's when we get vision without realistic delivery. I find that exciting and hopeful and enjoyable to think about. The practical thinkers enjoy it too until delivery becomes "Soon", time is meaningful and important to them. Without both types where would the world be today?
Agree with Roamer. It is a great feature to have. Any $100,000 car should have it, and those who don't like it, can just turn it off. It is also obvious that it is a feature Tesla will add because buyers at this price point expect it. My only hope is it will be possible to retrofit it reasonably.
Way too glib. Elon recalls 2008 in excruciating, painful detail, e.g.
In October 2012 I asked George Blankenship (when he was with us) did they have on the drawing board ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL, SIDELANE WARNING, HEAD-UP DISPLAY, REAR CROSS TRAFFIC WARNING?
He merely said,"Those and 30 or 40 others."
In my 17 months of ownership of the Model S I find that I can do almost as well as the head-up display since the position of the navigation screen is so near the windshield, and the digital speedometer is so easy to glance at,that I am quite comfortable with not having the HUD.
I would like the ADAPTIVE CRUISE,however, and if Tesla puts it on, I made trade up. I wonder if MOBILEYE would be a sensible substitute in the meantime.
Any ideas on that?