Who is going to get the first P+'s off the line? I have an "end of line" date of May 20 with delivery shortly (5 days?) after that. Has anyone gotten delivery already or have earlier dates?
I am told to expect delivery by May 22.
I am picking up my multi-coat red, performance plus with all other options on May 10th at the Fremont factory.
As a signature Model S owner who has a P85, I'm jealous!
May 10!!!! Wow that might be the first one off the line. I'm dying to hear about the "supercar handling". I doubt they could use that phrase without backing it up.
Lets hope its amazing and the retro fit for P85s who lust after the + follows!
May 10th! Lucky!!!! I just called and I'm looking at mid-Jun. That means there will be a lot of time wasted on this forum as I wait for my new baby!!! :(
I will do my best to keep you all updated on the handling. I have been driving an SLS for about a year now and I surely hope the P85 performance plus will boast similar if not better skills.
It is really not luck however. I worked hard when TM released the performance plus package to get everyone at headquarters to include it on my build. At first, they were unsure as the car had already been released to the factory, but I insisted I did not care when I got delivery so long as it was going to be performance plus. I could actually pick it up as early as Wednesday, but I am traveling currently and I asked them to pick it up Friday, May 10th. 8 more days!!!
I live is St. Louis but I will fly out and pick it up for you and leave it in your garage charging! plus a few extra miles :-)
I am really curious to see how the car compares to an M5 (the defacto standard for a performance sedan - or so say the mags). If anyone familiar with the M5 gets a chance to ride in or drive a P+ please post your comments.
@lolachampcar, You have seen the YouTube video of the drag race between the Model S P85 and M5 have you not? :)
@lolachampcar - The standard P85 already outperforms the M5 from 0-100mph, "2 out of 3 times anyways"...
I'm also fairly certain it handles better too, as it has a lower center of gravity, a lower drag coefficient (0.24) and plus the Model S' body is 97% comprised of lightweight aluminum.
Wow, Paul. Hard work really does pay off! Im told mid June for mine too. May 11 we are expecting a full report! Congrats.
Elon's standard for handling comparison is the McLaren.
If they can really achieve McLaren handling in a car that seats 7 and has room for Costco groceries that will be mind-boggling.
Based on updates from others on teslamotorsclub.com it appears that the first (and fairly large) batch of performance plus cars will be built next week.
I would not be so sure that it handles better. The P85 already has a very low center of gravity, but on Edmunds testing, several SUVs (Yes, high center of gravity SUVs) beat the P85 in both the slalom and skid pad. Among them are the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT, BMW x6M, Porsche Cayenne, etc., along with a long list of performance sedans. I don't know if the problem is the tires, the suspension, or both, but the P85+ needs to really up the ante for those of us that enjoy hard cornering.
Just got my VIN overnight. Waiting to hear the delivery date.
@Sudre_: Thanks for the offer, however, after waiting for this long, I surely would be bonkers to accept it.
@jnb: Hard work does pay off most of the time. I am glad it did with mine.
@Six: I am not fairly certain where the updates from TMC come from, but I can tell you this, my P85+ will be ready by May 8th.
Hmm, what time on the 10th? I'm also picking up my red (non+) P85 on the 10th. I almost got the +, until a little financial sanity hit me, but am still curious to know how much handling difference is noticeable.
My P+ order was finalized this past Monday, the 29th. It sounds like there is a batch being made mid-June so hopefully I'll be in that.
I should have been more precise in my comment. I am interested in suspension bushing compliance, shock valving and roll control of MS P+ as compared to the M5. If I were to voice on complaint with my MS P85 it would be the vague nature of the rear of the car. It does not feel like shock valving or spring rate although both of these are less than the M5. It does feel exactly like too much compliance in the suspension bushings.
MS is supposed to have superior torsional stiffness when compared to the seven series chassis (current M5 is based on the seven series chassis) so, in theory, Tesla should provide better wheel control.
As for getting MS P+ to handle like a MP4-12C (or F1 for that matter), I would think that a pipe dream but then I have been wrong before :)
Now if you want to talk about how Musk handles in comparison to Dennis..... There is absolutely no comparison and there is no way to fix a Dennis.
@eddygorsuch: I pick up after my factory tour at 9 a.m.
@BYT: P+ retrofits for $13,000.
Tesla Model S Peformance Plus Option Now Available for $6,500; Retrofits Offered Too
From the article:
"The Performance Plus option, basically a suspension and wheel package, has been in the works for months now. Its the creation of Tesla engineers who were sort of put off when Motor Trend editor in chief Angus MacKenzie told Elon Musk that the Model S was a fine handling machine, but was outdone by the McLaren MP4-12C supercar. That prompted Tesla to get to work on a package that would put the Model S on level ground with the McLaren."
No way the P+ will be close to the McLaren. I'm just hoping it will be more in line with an M5 or Panamera in the handling/cornering department.
@hnashif, yeah, I read that article too. I have to save up for $13,500 and might as well wait for the tires on my Model S to wear out to at least make replacing those worthwhile as part of the upgrade cost. Still, at +$12k (if I subtract the tire costs), it's a lot to pay.
I think I'll wait to test drive a P+ that has been retrofit before I decide to take the plunge. There goes all those tax credits which I had already blown half of on the Service Fees.
Nice to know that P+ are on the way. Mine has EOL date of May 13.
since I am on the east coast I suspect it will be end of May before I see it.
I just wish Tesla would offer the retrofit P+ to all signature owners for a better deal (like $6,500.00), being we are the ones who helped keep the faith for SO long (and serious deposit $$$$$$$ in their bank), only to find out in the end we paid a substantial amount more for just a few minor cosmetic differences, compared to non-sigs.
@paul.e.mcdaniel Hmm, my tour is at 11:00, but we're planning on showing up early. Maybe of there's time, I could catch a ride for comparison?
Does anyone know if the P85+ has more power then p85? Or just handling? I bet if you wait long enough you can buy after market parts for it and probably better then dealers parts. I use to own a little civic which I modified and I worked on my civic to change bushing and add multiple stablelizing bars. I know my little civic handle better then my current P85. I notice on the p85 on the first test drive at the show room DC when taking hard corner at high speed it walble. The people over DC show room asked me what I though of it and I told them that the back wheels slips and said that that might be a people for me. That's when I decided to get the 21'in wheels instead of the 19.